12 Comments
User's avatar
plasmarob's avatar

I am studying antimemetics right now, and I would like to have a conversation with someone in your circles. I think you would be interested in what I've found.

Expand full comment
Guy's avatar

DM me what you got?

Expand full comment
Quinn's avatar

interesting 👀

Expand full comment
Shadow Rebbe's avatar

LET'S GO!

If I can contribute one thing, and the thing that mosts interests me (at the moment of typing) is probably something in the area of "so how do you communicate this field to other people successfully, so that they not only have the theory, but are able to apply it as is proper in life'.

or smth like that

Expand full comment
Adam's avatar

👀👀

Expand full comment
Tigran III's avatar

love Defender’s work and would love to be there

will DM you on X as well

Expand full comment
Alex's avatar

When and where will this unconference be announced?

Expand full comment
Guy's avatar

Here and also at least on my and Defender's Twitters

Expand full comment
Raj's avatar

> Defender illustrated “3” with the Janitor & CEO test: as a CEO you can just feed your Janitor info you’d want to go up the hierarchy and check if it actually does. Ideally you have maximally smooth communication going both ways.

Could you say this again with a different metaphor? I didn’t understand this

Expand full comment
Defender's avatar

in an ideal information environment, good ideas propagate up the hierarchy. Or, important problems.

In reality, managers hide problems from their superiors. And people take credit for the work of people who work under them. This is bad for both sides (the people at the bottom, and also the people at the top)

One way to measure how bad the problem is, so that we can start to fix it, is for someone at the top to conspire with someone at the bottom. If you want to find out if the managers are telling you the truth - you intentionally introduce a problem into the system and see if information about it reaches you.

Will your mechanic tell you the truth? Will journal reject the paper if the data is completely made up?

This kind of thing is typically “hostile”, but I think it can be done in a way that is positive sum (this is not a punishment of the people who work for you - this is a test done in good faith to see if people will notice / do the right thing. If they don’t, then that’s a bug in the system that we can resolve).

Expand full comment
plasmarob's avatar

I have taken to studying antimemes and what I call paramemetics, and re: things being hidden, I think you guys would be interested in what I've found, esp in the religious space. ideas hidden by people yelling all day. If you want to talk somewhere sometime, let me know.

Expand full comment